tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post7801498871732669160..comments2024-03-26T09:59:19.443-07:00Comments on Adventures With Beth: Both Sides of the DoorCindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13760897671143549963noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post-67261999535635797422012-07-20T05:44:59.768-07:002012-07-20T05:44:59.768-07:00This is a tough situation. I hope that you all ca...This is a tough situation. I hope that you all can find a common ground that works best for A.ckbryllianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903634427934180138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post-56985524430875889312012-07-17T07:36:03.511-07:002012-07-17T07:36:03.511-07:00What I loved most about this post is when you said...What I loved most about this post is when you said "I remembered his Moms heart"...And you took the boy in to Worship...That shows what a loving person you are.<br /><br />I realize that this little boy probably found the most acceptance and was more comfortable in the one room because people understood him there and were more welcoming...But then at the same time I do not like kids with disabilities being segregated like that...I never want that for Russell...And the only way for others to stop looking at our kids as though they were so very different is if they are around them more and doing things with them.<br /><br />I loved this post, lot's to think about, and you have a unique perspective that some of us don't yet, so I value everything you say.JChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040699928110444013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post-9812040332287653902012-07-17T06:46:31.571-07:002012-07-17T06:46:31.571-07:00I love the way you are able to be on both sides of...I love the way you are able to be on both sides of the door. I love the way arms hold one another. However, I too wonder . . . its not the wanting "more" (because that would be communicating that those with special needs are less, which they aren't), but isn't it about, especially from a Christian point of view?, being healed from what separates us from our community and from God? .... and what separates us is not our disability (or blindness, or difference or whatever), but rather our loneliness. . . . and what about the gifts of including? I believe that communities, especially faith communities, are enriched by struggling with how to make a place for ALL. For ALL are welcome at the table, I don't think there was a separate table for anyone. . . . This doesn't mean that having a separate space or a unique way to share God's word and love is wrong, but rather that the struggle to include, to welcome, to allow us ALL to be enriched by each other's gifts is a fine one! We do need to ask questions (as you do) and your willingness to think about this and to ask a questions and to reframe the experience is wonderful and courageous.Nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375461078977866753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post-27743233615613269212012-07-17T05:41:37.440-07:002012-07-17T05:41:37.440-07:00Okay, and my typos above are out of control in my ...Okay, and my typos above are out of control in my last comment. I was going to proofread but it just posted it. I should have said self contained and not restrictive too. I felt bad after I posted it too because I do not want to sound mean or judgmental of all the good you are doing at your church for those kids. I know God will guide you to provide in the best way for all at your church. Just truly felt I needed to throw out my two cents for whatever it was worth because I feel so passionately about inclusion in every aspect of life.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01201595211241091609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6781391039989679284.post-49980990541535635792012-07-17T05:11:01.549-07:002012-07-17T05:11:01.549-07:00I have to say I agree with the mom on this one. Yo...I have to say I agree with the mom on this one. You know so well how we fight so hard to have our kids not only included in the classroom, but in life..the restrictive classroom over the years has created a wall, one which needs to be broken down. If we segregate them, then others will too. I know our kids with special needs may need more attention, more one on one, but time and time again it has been proven it can be done among their typical peers, and it is a win-win for all. The one place I am find it easiest so far, and most welcoming, is at church. I know you are truly what you think is best in your heart, and I do not know how your church works at all. All I can is speak from heart of how I might have felt...and I know I would want Kristen among her typical peers worshipping with them too. Thanks for posting this and putting it out there. I pray my words come across in a constructive way too...Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01201595211241091609noreply@blogger.com